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I hate to re-ignite VRM wars on a Friday afternoon - but here goes.
C-VRM has been in for a week and had behaved (ie you can't tell the difference) until yesterday. I then had to do a job that I only do once a month - flatbed scanning. Hooked up the HP scanner, scanned to Adobe Reader and "Saved As..." to name and put the file in the correct folder. As soon as the saving progress bar completed there was a beep from the HD, spin down and black screen. The fan stayed on, as did the power button and other lights inside. Rubbish old HP drivers thinks I (but also thinks - it's never done that before). Hold the power until it turns off then restart and everything's fine. Scan again. This time the HD beeps but recovers and everything continues as normal. Suspect the USB, so I try open a file from a card reader and save that as something else - no problemo. At this point I have no clue but am not unduly concerned. Today however, for no particular reason, run Xbench. App opens fine then, as soon as I click start - beep, spin down, black screen. Try again - same. Starting to think "oh ****". Swap stock VRM back in - Xbench runs fine. Swap C-VRM back in - beep, spin down, black screen. Is this one of the famous Sonnet/C-VRM "issues"? An application process shutting down disk and video power? Too weird. Now, in the space of a week I have not used every app nor untertaken every process that I would in the course of my work so I don't know if I've uncovered the full extent of this, but as I've said, for the most part it runs just fine. -------------------- Cube 1: Sonnet 1.8GHz, XFX Geforce 6200 w/Zalman VF700-Cu @ 5v, 1.5Gb RAM, 120Gb Seagate ST3120026A, CD/DVD-ROM, Cube speakers, Dell 2407WFP, OS 10.5.8, OS 9.2.2. All wrapped up in a PL ClearCube. 250Gb Seagate ST3250620A FW External.
Cube 2: 450Mhz, Rage128Pro, 1.25Gb RAM, 120Gb IBM Deskstar, CD/DVD-ROM. Cube speakers, Formac Gallery 1740, OS 10.4.10. |
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Mimram C-VRM Issue Jan 19 2007, 10:53 AM
parism Have you tried scanning with the old VRM?
Paris Jan 19 2007, 11:12 AM
CubeIt Very weird... time to break out the silicone oil..... Jan 19 2007, 12:35 PM
Mimram
Have you tried scanning with the old VRM?
Many t... Jan 19 2007, 01:01 PM
parism
Many times in the past - yes. Cube is off now fo... Jan 19 2007, 01:18 PM
Fangsuede Yes, can a application/USB port/HD have too much e... Jan 19 2007, 02:01 PM

CubeIt
...can a application/USB port/HD have too much el... Jan 19 2007, 02:05 PM
philcodada I would definitely try the snake oil treatment, ho... Jan 19 2007, 02:08 PM
jginsc To show my ignorance - I have seen mention of sili... Jan 19 2007, 06:39 PM
CubeIt A silicon based oil (as opposed to carbon), so it ... Jan 19 2007, 06:41 PM
bigkumadog
To show my ignorance - I have seen mention of sil... Jan 19 2007, 10:52 PM
CubeIt I can only tell you silicone oil really does work,... Jan 19 2007, 10:59 PM

bigkumadog
I can only tell you silicone oil really does work... Jan 19 2007, 11:21 PM

Fangsuede
My fear is that JDW is right, and there is a feed... Jan 20 2007, 12:08 AM
youfo
I prefer this product I've used it for a coup... Jan 19 2007, 11:45 PM
JDW Well, I for one am going to diverge from the black... Jan 19 2007, 08:05 PM
JDW Well, again I must put forth my previous query to ... Jan 20 2007, 02:52 AM
CubertsDad My scanner, a Canon model, draws its power from th... Jan 20 2007, 08:03 AM
jginsc I tried installing my new Sonnet 1.8 yesterday wit... Jan 20 2007, 09:21 AM
CubeIt Is a Seagate drive turning up as a common factor? ... Jan 20 2007, 10:25 AM
Mimram
I tried installing my new Sonnet 1.8 yesterday wi... Jan 20 2007, 03:17 PM
bigkumadog Did you install the Sonnet Cache download if I re... Jan 20 2007, 03:33 PM
Mimram
Did you install the Sonnet Cache download if I r... Jan 20 2007, 04:58 PM
Mighty Mac I'm not sure that this will help but our setup... Jan 20 2007, 06:24 PM
CubeIt ADC monitor? for I believe that might be part of t... Jan 20 2007, 06:32 PM
Mighty Mac
ADC monitor? for I believe that might be part of ... Jan 20 2007, 07:13 PM
Mimram
ADC monitor? for I believe that might be part of ... Jan 20 2007, 08:21 PM
Mimram Thanks for all the interesting and varied response... Jan 20 2007, 11:22 AM
CubeIt
Greg now reports failure with another Seagate/... Jan 20 2007, 12:28 PM

Mimram
I see it the other way around, maybe you are figu... Jan 20 2007, 03:30 PM

CubeIt
To my mind the ST3120026A is close to a perfect m... Jan 20 2007, 04:08 PM
bigkumadog
Thanks for all the interesting and varied respons... Jan 20 2007, 12:49 PM
CubeIt I have a recollection that XBench was crashing my ... Jan 20 2007, 01:12 PM
JDW Andy, when I was in engineering school, my communi... Jan 20 2007, 06:00 PM
CubertsDad As a chemist, I can tell you that the order of inc... Jan 20 2007, 07:19 PM
CubeIt What about Chromium? As I understand it, chromium ... Jan 20 2007, 07:30 PM
jginsc To answer an earlier question put to me, I have no... Jan 20 2007, 07:59 PM
CubeIt Do you use an ADC monitor with your cube? Jan 20 2007, 08:19 PM
TomD
...Swap stock VRM back in - Xbench runs fine. Sw... Jan 20 2007, 08:38 PM
jginsc At the time I was having the problem, I was using ... Jan 20 2007, 09:31 PM
CubeIt SystemLoad
http://www.bresink.de/osx/SystemLoad.ht... Jan 21 2007, 02:31 AM
JDW For the record: My name is James, and I use an ADC... Jan 21 2007, 03:00 AM
Mimram
Using version 1.3 of XBench gets a shutdown every... Jan 21 2007, 03:37 AM
TomD Root Cause:
Change one thing at a time, go back to... Jan 21 2007, 01:01 PM
CubeIt I would also do a heavy RAM check with Rember/MemT... Jan 21 2007, 02:02 PM
JDW Well, I think we can rule out the cause being our ... Jan 21 2007, 03:46 AM
Mimram James - try running Adobe Reader 7. Open any old ... Jan 21 2007, 05:14 AM
JDW Jeremy, I just downloaded Reader 7.0.9 (I normall... Jan 21 2007, 05:41 AM
JDW TomD and Andy, while I certainly appreciate your s... Jan 21 2007, 05:24 PM
CubeIt Fair enough, then lets find something that turns t... Jan 21 2007, 06:10 PM
Mimram
Fair enough, then lets find something that turns ... Jan 21 2007, 07:02 PM
JDW Andy, for the record, I have run RAM checks multip... Jan 21 2007, 06:51 PM
jginsc After more or less reading all the additional post... Jan 21 2007, 08:28 PM
CubeIt It is bugging me that my machine was once crashing... Jan 21 2007, 09:44 PM
JDW Jeremy, we all away your click on that CHUD checkb... Jan 21 2007, 10:17 PM
Mimram OK - interesting results from the CHUD test. Unch... Jan 22 2007, 05:47 AM
JDW Jeremy, thank you for the CHUD test! But now ... Jan 22 2007, 08:12 AM
CubeIt It may not be a matter of high load, but load fluc... Jan 22 2007, 08:47 AM
Mimram
Jeremy, thank you for the CHUD test! But now... Jan 22 2007, 08:48 AM
Mimram Further findings from today (the little time I had... Jan 22 2007, 02:10 PM
CubeIt I wonder if all CPU cards use both 3.3V and 5V Jan 22 2007, 03:01 PM
JDW Jeremy, I've run Bridge many times before with... Jan 22 2007, 05:44 PM
CubeIt
I am inclined to write Giga Designs about this a... Jan 22 2007, 08:59 PM
jginsc Could this not be a Sonnet engineering problem? I ... Jan 22 2007, 06:18 PM
JDW I ran the Giga VRM with a Sonnet 1.2 (based on a d... Jan 22 2007, 10:11 PM
TomD It could be the combination of not enough input ca... Jan 22 2007, 09:09 PM
CubeIt Electrolytic capacitors are not so great at buffer... Jan 22 2007, 09:53 PM
JDW Got a link to a hi-res picture
of the top and bott... Jan 22 2007, 10:16 PM
CubeIt I don't see the 'fast' capacitors on t... Jan 22 2007, 11:12 PM
JDW I follow you, Andy, but why do I only see this C-V... Jan 23 2007, 12:59 AM
CubeIt
I follow you, Andy, but why do I only see this C... Jan 23 2007, 03:31 PM
jginsc Xbench 1.3 was not released when I was running the... Jan 23 2007, 06:35 AM
Mimram Many thanks to all who are continuing to think abo... Jan 23 2007, 01:48 PM
JDW Many thanks, Jeremy for the extensive testing of h... Jan 23 2007, 05:24 PM
Mimram I've dropped a polite note to Sonnet support t... Jan 23 2007, 05:47 PM
lhskeeper07 Hello all,
When I get home today, I am going to d... Jan 24 2007, 08:09 AM
Mimram
When I get home today, I am going to download X-B... Jan 24 2007, 09:17 AM

CubeIt The Sonnet card here seems to be well populated wi... Jan 24 2007, 09:30 AM

Mimram
The Sonnet card here seems to be well populated w... Jan 24 2007, 10:39 AM
knewtoncube
but again I am still in high school and you guy... Jan 24 2007, 02:08 PM
CubeIt
I am an engineer, but a Mechanical Engineer.
... Jan 24 2007, 02:50 PM

knewtoncube
I'm also a mechanical Engineer... but that ne... Jan 24 2007, 03:12 PM
Mimram
The two cube users experiencing problems are both... Jan 24 2007, 05:22 PM
Mimram Not a good day for the C-VRM I'm afraid. Went... Jan 24 2007, 01:21 PM
philcodada
On logout this afternoon, it beeped and beachbal... Jan 24 2007, 02:07 PM
Mimram
I would consider sending the CVRM back and gettin... Jan 24 2007, 04:32 PM
lhskeeper07 Well, i ran the test 3 times and absolutly no prob... Jan 24 2007, 03:40 PM
CubeIt I have an overclocked cube (550MHz) with a C-VRM, ... Jan 24 2007, 04:06 PM
Mimram
If the Sonnet card is causing the problem, AND th... Jan 24 2007, 05:31 PM
JDW I live in the 60Hz area. We use 100VAC here in Ja... Jan 24 2007, 05:28 PM
CubeIt
I live in the 60Hz area. We use 100VAC here in ... Jan 24 2007, 05:33 PM

Mimram
But if we are not here to find where the fault is... Jan 24 2007, 05:46 PM

CubeIt I thought I was being rational, but if this was no... Jan 24 2007, 06:07 PM

Mimram
I thought I was being rational, but if this was n... Jan 24 2007, 06:13 PM
Mighty Mac
Please download Cinebench 9.5 like I did and see ... Jan 24 2007, 08:04 PM
jginsc How long does it take Cinebench to run? By the way... Jan 24 2007, 08:37 PM
JDW Andy, the very fact that the Apple power brick was... Jan 24 2007, 08:58 PM
CubeIt Fair enough... the power brick it is not...
Exc... Jan 24 2007, 09:02 PM
Mimram A couple of tests from this morning:
Cinebench - ... Jan 25 2007, 08:02 AM
CubeIt I hate to say it...
the hints are there about b... Jan 25 2007, 08:46 AM![]() ![]() |
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