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| CubeOwner |
Mar 22 2006, 06:44 PM
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Thomas prepared this chart last year, in the same spirir as the video card chart that people like so much. It's fallen a bit out of date, what with all the turmoil that persists in the accelerator biz, but I've cleaned it up a tad with my good eye (LOL) and now am asking you all to take a pass at it to correct/add any glaring omissions or mistakes.
Things that are discontinued on the manufacturer's site, but still available elsewhere that you have confirmed, may be added - but please list the source for those upgrades if you add them. Download the LATEST Excel spreadsheet version below, make your proposed changes and email the new versions to me at my name @ this site .com. By this weekend I should then have a mostly accurate chart posted in the FAQ for your convenience. On the CPU Director (aka CPUD for those in the know) front, I have it on good authority that a new and improved version of CPUD with 10.4.5 support should be ready to roll by March 27. One of OWC's (and mine) favorite software developers is on the case and he's rarely been known to let folks down, so I think we'll all be pleased and find it worth the wait. In the meantime, please keep in mind that if you are concerned about keeping your Cube cool without CPUD, you can install Apple's CHUD Tools (free) and enable the NAP setting at login, thanks to a script that Gene Hack thoughtfully whipped up for us. See this post for details and instructions: http://www.cubeowner.com/forums/index.php?...189entry73189 v.4
Cube_CPU_Upgrades_v4.xls.zip ( 8.29k )
Number of downloads: 1960This post has been edited by CubeOwner: Mar 23 2006, 06:10 PM -------------------- Laurie A. Duncan
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| Mimram |
Mar 22 2006, 07:45 PM
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OK Laurie - you got mail.
-------------------- Cube 1: Sonnet 1.8GHz, XFX Geforce 6200 w/Zalman VF700-Cu @ 5v, 1.5Gb RAM, 120Gb Seagate ST3120026A, CD/DVD-ROM, Cube speakers, Dell 2407WFP, OS 10.5.8, OS 9.2.2. All wrapped up in a PL ClearCube. 250Gb Seagate ST3250620A FW External.
Cube 2: 450Mhz, Rage128Pro, 1.25Gb RAM, 120Gb IBM Deskstar, CD/DVD-ROM. Cube speakers, Formac Gallery 1740, OS 10.4.10. |
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| ybalx |
Mar 23 2006, 01:48 PM
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![]() Cube Regular ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 31-July 03 Specs: 7457 PL Dual 1.3 1.5 Ram 120 Seagate GeForce 3 VRM Cooler Superdrive Panasonic uj825b 23" ADC 128 Xbench Member No.: 1,441 Gender:please select Where From?:Indianapolis |
I wonder if the PLm 7457 Dual 1.3 has (2x) 2 MB L3? Or just one?
Also, this card somehow reports temperature data. One more on Gene Hack's NAP script, not sure that he's kept his script up to date with the latest CHUD upgrade that rolled this last week... Hope all is better with your eye.... I have battled eye disease, eye shots, laser, vitrectomy peel, gas bubbles and the like for several years so I understand the recovery process very well. -------------------- fat guy in a little coat
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| CubeOwner |
Mar 23 2006, 02:18 PM
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It's 2MB L3 on each processor. I guess I can clarify that on the chart.
The NAP script should only be used with CHUD Tool v3.5.2. Later versions of CHUD Tools had NAP disabled by Apple. The eye is healing. It's a little better each day. Will be weeks before it's completely healed they tell me, but I'm trying to remain confident. I had an optic nerve sheath fenestration to relieve severe papilledema (swelling of the optic nerve), caused by increased intracranial hypertension (which is caused by excess cerebral spinal fluid). Medical management (via Diamox) and lumbar punctures to drain off the excess CSF failed to work and my vision was degrading rapidly in my right eye, with my left eye thankfully remaining fairly stable, although it had degraded somewhat. Although I have other symptoms from the IIH (namely high pressure headaches), the visual loss is the most devastating in terms of leading my "normal" life, so the ONSF procedure was a logical next step for me, instead of a ventriculo-peritoneal (V-P) shunt or lumbo-peritoneal (L-P) shunt, both of which have added risks and complications that I couldn't accept. The procedure itself is one I am glad I was under general anesthesia for -------------------- Laurie A. Duncan
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| mig |
Mar 23 2006, 03:22 PM
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| NightCougar_37 |
Mar 23 2006, 04:23 PM
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Ok I fixed the part on the OEM chips. Few values were off and I added one for the 7410. Rest was lookin ok.
-------------------- Bastila The Cube: PPC7447a @ 1.8Ghz (Originally 1.5Ghz) / 1GB RAM / OEM GeForce 3 64MB (230/200 Core/Mem) (Thermaltake G4 via Artic Silver Adhesive) (Stock G4 fan replaced with 5V FX5600 fan) (12 Tweakmonster Ramsinks via thermal tape) (Spirica Quiet Fan for heat exhaust) / 120GB Seagate 7200.7 / Mashita SR-8186 DVD / GigaDesigns Blue Base Fan / Airport Card / OS X.4.11
(New Project) G4 Quicksilver Tower: 867Mhz 7450 2MB L3 OCed @ 1Ghz / 1GB RAM / PNY nVidia Geforce 7800GS 256MB / 40GB + 60GB on SIIG ATA133 / Lite-On 16X DVD / OS X.4.11 "What we need is a diversion. I say Zoe gets nekkid.".."nope".."I could get nekkid?".."NOO!!" |
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| CubeIt |
Mar 23 2006, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(CubeOwner @ Mar 22 2006, 04:44 PM) On the CPU Director (aka CPUD for those in the know) front, I have it on good authority that a new and improved version of CPUD with 10.4.5 support should be ready to roll by March 27. One of OWC's (and mine) favorite software developers is on the case and he's rarely been known to let folks down, so I think we'll all be pleased and find it worth the wait. Hopefully with an approach that does not break at each and every incremental update. -------------------- The Centre for Quantum Computation is acknowledged for the avatar
What is proved by impossibility proofs is lack of imagination -- John Bell |
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| CubeOwner |
Mar 23 2006, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(shiekh @ Mar 23 2006, 05:26 PM) I can't say for sure about that - if the kernel changes, it would be unwise to allow the application to ignore it and potentially cause far greater harm to your machine. -------------------- Laurie A. Duncan
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| CubeOwner |
Mar 23 2006, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(NightCougar_37 @ Mar 23 2006, 04:23 PM) Ok I fixed the part on the OEM chips. Few values were off and I added one for the 7410. Rest was lookin ok. You actually shifted a bunch of rows, which left many empty cells and added a reference to a 533 mod, with no instructions. if you want to include a mod, please submit it as a separate FAQ with complete details. Meanwhile, I cleaned up the OEM lines. Thanks. -------------------- Laurie A. Duncan
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| flyrod |
Mar 23 2006, 06:40 PM
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It might be nitpicking at this point, but is it worth mentioning external vs. internal L2 cache? The on-chip L2 runs at full speed, whereas the external L2 of the older processors runs at a fraction of the CPU speed. Some documents just call this a "backside" cache, whether it's L2 or L3. The freescale web page shows this distinction among its PPC lines:
http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/t...2468rH3bTdG8653 There may be some relevent info here too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G4 http://www.geek.com/procspec/apple/g4.htm If we're trying to make a comprehensive chart, I don't see a problem with putting DIY type upgrades in there too. The dual apple 500MHz cpu would be an example of this; it has been done several times at least. So there would be 4 categories: OEM, currently offered upgrades, discontinued upgrades, and popular DIY CPU transplants. Of course the DIY category can have all kinds of * and warnings about heat, VRMs, using pointed tools, etc. if needed. |
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| CubeIt |
Mar 23 2006, 06:43 PM
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At that point one might benefit from the ratio that goes with each cache 1:1, 1:2, 1:6 etc
this might be more informative than internal verses external The Apple original has the L2 running at 1:2 This post has been edited by shiekh: Mar 23 2006, 06:49 PM -------------------- The Centre for Quantum Computation is acknowledged for the avatar
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| CubeOwner |
Mar 23 2006, 07:02 PM
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![]() Founder, Editor ![]() Group: *Root* Posts: 6,580 Joined: 7-August 02 Specs: Everyday Cube: PL Dual 1.7GHz 7447A, 1.5GB RAM, 250GB WD HD, FX 5200 with Dual VGA LCD Displays, 8x SuperDrive Member No.: 1 Gender:Female Where From?:Brooklyn, NY First Name: Laurie |
Thanks for your input, folks, but please refer to my original post where I say "Download the LATEST Excel spreadsheet version below, make your proposed changes and email the new versions to me at my name @ this site .com. By this weekend I should then have a mostly accurate chart posted in the FAQ for your convenience."
I don't object to Mods and DIY upgrades - but you will need to submit them to me in full if you want them added as a reference in the chart. -------------------- Laurie A. Duncan
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| NightCougar_37 |
Mar 24 2006, 06:10 AM
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Actually I didnt shift really anything. Hmmm, must have gotten messed up when it was translated back into Excel format. I was afraid of that. I dont have excel just Appleworks and I used that for the translation. It looked fine on my screen. Maybe I should have put it in the latest excel translation instead of an earlier one but I tried to go with the most compatible.
You can toss out the mod bit, just note that it requires a small mod to set the CPU multiplier since it comes from the DA 133Mhz bus machines. Not a major mod at all really, its practically a plug in play CPU for the Cube if you know the mod. If the mod needs to be added to the FAQ, I could write up quick instructions for it sometime, no sweat. -------------------- Bastila The Cube: PPC7447a @ 1.8Ghz (Originally 1.5Ghz) / 1GB RAM / OEM GeForce 3 64MB (230/200 Core/Mem) (Thermaltake G4 via Artic Silver Adhesive) (Stock G4 fan replaced with 5V FX5600 fan) (12 Tweakmonster Ramsinks via thermal tape) (Spirica Quiet Fan for heat exhaust) / 120GB Seagate 7200.7 / Mashita SR-8186 DVD / GigaDesigns Blue Base Fan / Airport Card / OS X.4.11
(New Project) G4 Quicksilver Tower: 867Mhz 7450 2MB L3 OCed @ 1Ghz / 1GB RAM / PNY nVidia Geforce 7800GS 256MB / 40GB + 60GB on SIIG ATA133 / Lite-On 16X DVD / OS X.4.11 "What we need is a diversion. I say Zoe gets nekkid.".."nope".."I could get nekkid?".."NOO!!" |
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